tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post9110956571781846770..comments2023-03-24T08:49:34.359-06:00Comments on On The Road To Patzcuaro, Mexico......: Hot Sandy Beaches and cool Margaritas.....Not.Tanchohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11196129338636347646noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-60447007952256370802010-11-02T23:12:52.699-06:002010-11-02T23:12:52.699-06:00Pat.. I almost forgot about that one, hey for what...Pat.. I almost forgot about that one, hey for what we paid for that house, he could afford the tank of gas.....<br />That was a nice house, and pool with a great view....maybe one of these days....<br />Na...couldn't afford it nowadays...Tanchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196129338636347646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-87373879992394783482010-11-02T21:55:31.205-06:002010-11-02T21:55:31.205-06:00Remember the house in Laurel Canyon? We turned th...Remember the house in Laurel Canyon? We turned the pool into a giant hot tub, once I found a way to circumvent the pool heater security. Wonder what that utility bill was.<br />Considering what we paid, we didn't feel too bad about hacking their pool...<br /><br />Can't wait to meet Daisy!Patnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-9023242228209794772010-11-01T06:18:25.085-06:002010-11-01T06:18:25.085-06:00Tancho - I have plans for a solar hot tub that a g...Tancho - I have plans for a solar hot tub that a guy made for $100 bucks total.<br /><br />Realistically you can make a solar hot tub for about 600 US and never pay anything to heat it.<br /><br />Our neighbor here in Xico is a pool builder - he has a good size pool in his backyard that he heats totally with solar. Last time I was there (a few days ago) it was 82 in that pool.<br /><br />BTW the hundred dollar effort was in Pueblo, Colorado NOT Merida ;-)Calypsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705486544074674388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-64402359583696125372010-10-29T09:42:54.342-05:002010-10-29T09:42:54.342-05:00I never realized of how expensive it could be to h...I never realized of how expensive it could be to heat a hot tub... Maybe I'll just fill up the bathtub with hot water and try and get in there.<br />Which brings to mind a funny story.<br />Years ago, about 25, we rented a house in Palm Springs for a weekend getaway. They had a hot tub and a pool. They had some confusing directions of closing and opening the valves to heat the hot tub. Figuring it would be nice, I changed the valves and we went to dinner. Upon our return I checked the temp in the hot tub... it was about 85, but the 8X16 pool was a nice 100. So we got in the pool...I would have loved to seen the look on the owners face when they got the next months power bill. ( Power was cheaper then, and I am sure he rewrote the instructions to be clearer)Tanchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196129338636347646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-7789380199289701462010-10-29T06:27:06.587-05:002010-10-29T06:27:06.587-05:00Bob's calculations are classic! LOL!
Saludos,...Bob's calculations are classic! LOL!<br /><br />Saludos,<br /> Don Cuevas<br /><br />Today's secret word: rewayDon Cuevashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512081335891808593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-14341233220036956472010-10-28T21:02:09.541-05:002010-10-28T21:02:09.541-05:00Actually it may even cost a little more, Tancho, d...Actually it may even cost a little more, Tancho, depending upon how much you pay for propane and how long it takes you to wrinkle. Here are my "scribble" numbers:<br /><br />24170 BTU per liquid litre<br />2 liquid litres per kilogram<br />50,000 BTU per kilo<br />8 kilos per hot tub initial heating plus 1 to maintain temperature until you wrinkle.<br />9 kilos @ approx 10.5 pesos per kilo = 94.50 pesos = $7.56<br /><br />You could probably hold this down to five bucks a pop if you used the sun to preheat your water...and don't forget your rubber ducky :)Bob Mrotekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15016079751197723749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-53309543914675161902010-10-28T20:25:32.792-05:002010-10-28T20:25:32.792-05:00Five bucks to heat the hot tub??/ Yikes... I think...Five bucks to heat the hot tub??/ Yikes... I think I will postpone that project until my lottery ticket pays off...<br />If I use the tub twice a week or so, that is going to run at least 50 bucks a month..<br />A bottle of Don Julio will keep me as warm for half that price...Tanchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196129338636347646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-49509159660339211352010-10-28T20:12:28.964-05:002010-10-28T20:12:28.964-05:00Water is very hard to heat. It takes an enormous a...Water is very hard to heat. It takes an enormous amount if energy. A 40,000 BTU/h heater takes about 25 minutes to raise the temperature of 40 gallons of 55 degree Fahrenheit water to 105 degree Fahrenheit water. To raise the temperature of 400 gallons of 55 degree water to 105 degrees in the same amount of time would require 400,000 BTU. A wood boiler of that size would be an industrial grade boiler and take a small forest of trees to feed it. Most wood boilers aren't much bigger than 150,000 BTU and one of those would cost around three thousand dollars. Better stick with a 400,000 BTU gas heater (two thousand dollars) and pay the five dollars or so for the gas to heat your tub each time you want to use it.Bob Mrotekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15016079751197723749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-77723098459913418382010-10-28T16:51:41.851-05:002010-10-28T16:51:41.851-05:00At my age, I find that by the time a wiood fire wo...At my age, I find that by the time a wiood fire would heat up the tub, my fire would be ebbing.Steve Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00468378507171761868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-49018630681048963822010-10-28T16:00:31.388-05:002010-10-28T16:00:31.388-05:00Well, Sr Cuevas, A wood fired heater would be the ...Well, Sr Cuevas, A wood fired heater would be the answer, and God knows we have enough wood here.... I may do some checking on the subject here, and see if there is anyone to build a cedar hot tub around here. I'll have to figure out how many BTU's it will take to heat the water to a nice 104 degrees....<br />Another project.....Tanchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196129338636347646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-51239878857329029932010-10-28T05:15:31.775-05:002010-10-28T05:15:31.775-05:00I was reading an article recently, I think in the ...I was reading an article recently, I think in the NY Times online, about a couple who'd installed a traditional wooden, wood fired hot tub. That saves on your electric bill but the disadvantage is that you have to plan ahead to build the fire.<br /><br />It used an submergible burner. I found the article: http://tinyurl.com/29hhb2b<br /><br />Saludos,<br /> Don Cuevas<br /><br />PS: By coincidence, today's Secret Word is "sumizzle".Don Cuevashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512081335891808593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-19502473815659349152010-10-27T23:17:49.209-05:002010-10-27T23:17:49.209-05:00Hi Leah,
Me too! I love the beach and surf, about ...Hi Leah,<br />Me too! I love the beach and surf, about a week at a time. Then to return to a crackling fire now and then, warm blanket, crisp cool evenings...nothing better. That's one of the reasons we choose this spot in the Sierra Madres.. If I lived on the coast, my AC bill would probably bankrupt me...<br /> <br />Thanks Bob, I will check it out next year....I don't think I'll be buying any Ocote at that spot...maybe haul a pickup load to sell maybe....<br /><br />Our nights drop down cooler than yours Calypso, but our days are probably like yours.. never too hot.. still good beer drinking weather.<br />I thought of a hot tub up here Steve...then figured that it would cost a fortune to keep it hot, based on the CFE rates... I'll use one when we visit somewhere, although I do remember how great one feels after a long soak...Maybe I can figure out a solar way to keep it going.....Tanchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196129338636347646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-22895826013507718912010-10-27T22:30:32.581-05:002010-10-27T22:30:32.581-05:00Well, I just came in from the hot tub on a pleasan...Well, I just came in from the hot tub on a pleasantly brisk October night here in Oregon. I will miss that when I head south. But there are good days ahead, as well.Steve Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00468378507171761868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-88243738481984772472010-10-27T22:29:40.853-05:002010-10-27T22:29:40.853-05:00Purrrfect weather here amigo - high 70's and s...Purrrfect weather here amigo - high 70's and sunny - nights about 60. But we are at 4300' Come on down.Calypsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705486544074674388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-63740217041253678572010-10-27T22:03:26.155-05:002010-10-27T22:03:26.155-05:00Tancho,
Next year you should go and see the festi...Tancho,<br /><br />Next year you should go and see the festival of "Candiles" in Uriangato which is not far from you. Each year on September 21 to 29 they hold a celebration in honor of Saint Michael the Archangel where they light bonfires of ocote in the streets every night. If you want to buy ocote right about now is a good time to go to Uriangato to buy the leftovers. It is also fun to go to MoroleĆ³n - Uriangato on the weekends for all of the factory outlet clothing sales. You literally "shop until you drop".Bob Mrotekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15016079751197723749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-78466074811044610192010-10-27T21:47:14.427-05:002010-10-27T21:47:14.427-05:00Your pictures looks a lot better than mine. I am m...Your pictures looks a lot better than mine. I am more comfortable with firewood and warm blankets than sweat and AC. I'll either get used to the tropical heat or be forced to move for health reasons. Hopefully sooner than later.One Small Vozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966486789164013039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-73164525341360155702010-10-27T21:28:21.978-05:002010-10-27T21:28:21.978-05:00Thanks Dan, when we started building the house I k...Thanks Dan, when we started building the house I knew we needed heat. Fireplaces at that time were non-existent in Mexico... (except those clay things that crack under a big fire) We had a big load of stuff including roofing insulation shipped through freight forwarders. The inserts where actually made in Canada. At the time we were building, there were not any Home Depot stores in Mexico. Every trip down we toted down stuff like Romex, grounded outlet plugs, bathroom exhaust fans, tools etc. It was an experience!Tanchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196129338636347646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33849671.post-83103825579635738862010-10-27T20:09:58.512-05:002010-10-27T20:09:58.512-05:00Tancho,
Loved the photo of the mutts getting comfy...Tancho,<br />Loved the photo of the mutts getting comfy! Did you get the insert (very practical and efficient) locally or lug it down from one of the trips NOB?<br />Cheers!<br />Dan in NCDan in NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08863090182812197749noreply@blogger.com